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Concept of the Week 3: Pot-Control

Stakes: Micro · Game: NLHE Cash - 6 max · Topics Covered: cbetting, barreling
Jack's concept video this week discusses checking back the flop as the pre flop raiser and how to exploit those opponents who do it vs you.
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Jack Wilcox (Hoodlincs) · Join Date: 16 Feb, 2011 · Number of posts: 253 27 Aug, 2011
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Hi, sorry for the delay getting back to you. With A6 there, i think it depends on how good the reg was and how wide their flatting range is preflop. some people are only flatting broadways and pocketpairs pre (stats might look something like 80% fold to steal, 12% call from bb, 8% 3bet or something) and vs those guys it would be quite bad to call the river because i dont expect people to bet Kx or turn pairs into bluffs).

vs the looser regs who's stats maybe look something like 70% fold to steal, 18% call and 12% 3bet, then i have a very easy call down just because they are more likely to 3bet a lot of their broadways preflop, and they are more likely to get to the river with no showdown value.
Oliver Klozoff (OliverKlozoff) · Join Date: 15 May, 2011 · Number of posts: 2 21 Aug, 2011
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28 min in- what's your plan if that guy fires that river again (he looks fishy)? Does if differ if a reg fires that river again?
Jack Wilcox (Hoodlincs) · Join Date: 16 Feb, 2011 · Number of posts: 253 19 Aug, 2011
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if im oop and 100bb deep with say JT on T84 2tone vs a super aggro player then mostly i am just betting and going with my hand because they will frequently raise weak draws or air before they start raising AT/KT for value. also they will have no overpairs if they are super aggro, so its kind of like sets/air and even though i do badly vs their get it in range theres just no other option. for 200bb it becomes a lot trickier vs a super aggro player and sometimes you just have to give up your hand because being oop makes it so hard to play.

id prefer to take a check-call line where my hand is less vulnerable, so for example check-calling AT on A82 or something, where there are significantly fewer turn cards that villain can represent to try and make us fold.

with the 2nd example, again it depends on how aggro your opponent is. the fact is you arent really getting more than 1 street of value from many hands, and all the hands which do c/c the flop will probably lead the turn when you check along with all his air. you dont have to worry about 'capping your range' unless you think your opponent is going to be overbetting the turn/river a lot - basically his range is so wide that he cant do anything because he just have you beat often enough.
lee smart (pokerhat) · Join Date: 28 Feb, 2011 · Number of posts: 2 18 Aug, 2011
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also you mention checking back j10 IP on 10xxr flop (which i like), however if its a 2 tone board as you mentioned your hand is capped because youd often bet a flush draw...so does this mean we should bet here v thinking players on a 2 tone board or also check our j10s hands so we are balanced...hope you get what i mean
lee smart (pokerhat) · Join Date: 28 Feb, 2011 · Number of posts: 2 18 Aug, 2011
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Hi Jack..love these concept videos
can you elaborate on how to pot control v aggro opponents oop , you mentioned it gets tough to cc because your hand becomes face up and they can bet turn/river to put you in hard spots but equally they can bluff raise flop bets ...whats your prefered option say on weak tp oop
Jack Wilcox (Hoodlincs) · Join Date: 16 Feb, 2011 · Number of posts: 253 17 Aug, 2011
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he posted and then checked his option. so i was just opening like normal. J2o would be too loose to open normally because you are risking 3bb to win 1.5bb, however when the cutoff poster is there i am risking 4bb to win 3bb so i dont need to steal as much.
Jimmy Engström (JimmyRare) · Join Date: 19 Apr, 2011 · Number of posts: 4 16 Aug, 2011
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Great video. I like how you leveled the guy with A9o. I guess it wasn't really pot control when you ended up in a big pot. =P

I felt though the J2o isolate CO vs Btn was a bit wide?
 
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